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Wednesday, November 30, 2016

A Thousand Kisses Deep

For many women, Leonard Cohen represents the perfect imaginary lover.

Multiply those thousand kisses by the 4,000 women he boasted of having over the course of his life. And think about what that does to a man, just for a moment -- not to mention the damage to the women.

I don't always appreciate the worshipful way people talk about him. It's disorienting for people who knew him, as the real, screwed up guy he was -- in fact, without his screwed-up-ness he would have been totally boring. He did not present himself in a superior light to those he met, in fact he preferred to come across as a hunchback or leper -- that was his style, his charm, his peculiar calling in life. He treated people as equals. Except secretly of course, he must have wanted to be worshipped because at the end of his life he had millions of fans around the world speaking of him in breathless superlatives. On the surface, he was well spoken and polite, like some incarnated Buddha radiating holy wisdom with every thought, word and deed. He worked his way into our souls, through a lifetime of misery.
People simply can't fathom his catastrophic negativity, that some could sense from a distance. His criminal mind, disguised in a suit, speaking in rhymes like a page from some Victorian tome. How, for years, almost nobody in his home town liked him, and most avoided him like a rare disease carrier. And how, to this day, although people miss him, many are probably as relieved as I am that he's gone. My relief, on hearing the news, outweighed the shock. I couldn't squeeze out a single tear. I felt his life had been strange and tragic, his success covering up real dismal failure. I felt glad that he no longer had to contain all the contradictions that had dogged him and that in vanishing had finally gone home, to be with the Roshi, and become One. Now we will experience him only through his songs, which will play on -- without needing wonder where those tortured notes originated. His extreme emotions which he hid carefully -- anger, self-hatred, pride, despair -- also are gone with the wind. I'm grateful to have known him, but mostly he was a load of trouble that constantly needed sorting out. He was a puzzle to men and a scourge to women, and lived to disappoint the people he struggled to love. Now he's finally at peace, in the ground where he can't torment us with his never-ending guilt and unspeakable secrets. The truth about him would freeze your heart, or maybe save your life. It's the truth we should be focusing on, not the fairy tale. I'm just glad I no longer have to witness him dying over decades, failing to answer his koan, giving those endless repetitive interviews of elegant profundity as his inner world shrank. He has gone to meet his Maker, or his Mom, in a place that is not heaven. It's probably some workhouse where they'll put him to work repairing broken toys or sewing up souls whose hearts he ripped out while alive. I'm sure he'll be fully employed, laboring among the demons who encouraged and controlled him from the Other Side. If a mythology must be built, let's make it an adult blend of dark and light -- not the Disney version. All this does not prevent me from feeling a kind of love for him in his absence. That's how old I've gotten. He was probably the most ravaged soul I have encountered in this world, and I suspect it's not the last time. But for now I'll just say goodbye, Leonard. Thanks for letting me get that close. I hope you're finally free of that murdering cabal.


And for the trolls who keep spamming the Comments:


* He lied often, e.g. in order to manage situations that he had created. He used his loyal followers to help him manage his complicated affairs. When confronted with his own lies, he was brilliant and elusive.

* He turned his nannies and other women into accomplices in his sometimes unconscionable, secretive behaviour – .

* He was a drug addict and alcoholic – he used drugs and booze to mask his depression. How much of his depression was really guilt caused by having to live with the consequences of his own actions, whether he remembered them clearly or not?

* He lied about Kelley Lynch whom he accused of stealing his money. This has never been proved in a court of law.

* He lied to the Roshi about his real reasons for going to India in 2000. They had nothing to do with 'spiritual enlightenment.'

* While adopting an image as a peaceful, impeccably kind and reasonable sage, he absolutely believed in violence. He owned guns and was trained in using them. How does that align with his public image?

* He had a number of apparently separate personalities – with different goals, different relationships, and secret histories. The likely cause of his dissociative behaviour is the documented fact that he was a victim of CIA mind control at one of the leading institutions where this program was created. He was probably a Manchurian Candidate since he went on missions to Cuba, Greece, and Ethiopia. He hid these facts about his early career while sometimes mentioning them in his writing, private conversations etc.

* He was skilled at psychological warfare techniques including ‘gaslighting’ – which he used on many people including myself, for years. He also understood the uses of gossip and 'fake news', particularly to discredit people he was close to. He both created chaos around him and meticulously managed it.

I'll be exploring these topics further in the second edition of THE MAN NEXT DOOR. Coming soon. (Paintings by Dianne Lawrence and David Wilson)


Truth-Teller said...

I never understood why people have difficulty separating the man from his art. So many great artists are terribly flawed human beings. I have just never seen this as a contradiction, a problem to be wrestled with or reconciled or even an issue. Pablo Picasso was probably a misogynist. He certainly didn't treat the women in his life very well. And he was an egotist. And a womanizer. And none of that affects my appreciation for his art. Not even a little. His paintings stand on their own merit. As with Leonard Cohen's music and poetry.

I am, however, astounded at the depth of emotion that Leonard Cohen must still evoke in Ann Diamond after all of these decades since they last spoke, let alone shared more significant interaction, that she could actually feel "relief" at his death at age 82. Not relief for Cohen as when one is glad that someone who they once loved and who had become ill has ended their suffering in death. But relief for herself.

Relief flowing from the death of a man who she has not even shared so much as a "hello" with in 40 years.

Leonard Cohen must have been, and must continue to be, a more profound part of her life than Ann realizes. Although, alas, not in any reciprocated sense.

And that is what really sticks in Ann's craw.

There are no relationship victims in this world, only willing participants.

If, for instance, working for Leonard Cohen was even half as awful as Kelley Lynch claimed after her fired her, why did she continue to work for the man for 18-years, knowing (allegedly) that he was an abusive "fraud", a "gossip", and who subjected her to sexually harassing conduct, words and images?

If all that is true and she did, who is to blame? Cohen or Lynch?

And so it is with Cohen's paramours, Ann Diamond included.

Ann Diamond said...

I don't consider myself as a victim. I was a witness to a lot of pointless suffering. Not my own -- I was a bystander. He used to talk about "the people who control my career" -- They made him do things that can't even be talked about. I hope he's free of those people now. Unless they're the ones who are building these monuments -- but if you visit his grave, you'll see there's not even a name on his headstone.

The people who idolize him have no idea who he was or what he came from. Now that he's gone, the truth cam come out. That's what we should celebrate. That plus the fact he's no longer a prisoner of their murderous cabal.

Truth-Teller said...

If you do not consider yourself a "victim" why then do you consider yourself to be so "relieved" by the death of a man you have not seen in 40 years and whom you barely know except as a "bystander"? Something does not add up.

I am unaware of any posthumous "truth" emerging about Leonard Cohen.

You and Kelley Lynch have been saying the same things about Cohen for over a decade. Your Mk Ultra book about Leonard Cohen has been in print for a year.

If you refer to the fact that Cohen had many sexual relationships with women his entire life and seemed pathologically incapable of forming a lasting emotional relationship with any of them, that was already well known and few people care.

Nor do I consider the other opinions offered up by someone who knew him casually 40 years ago but seems professionally preoccupied with Cohen or the opinions of a clearly disgruntled former manager who was his greatest standard bearer until she was fired 15-years ago for embezzlement and who was since criminally convicted of harassing the late songwriter to be either definitive or even particularly credible.

Perhaps more to the point, nor do a critical mass of critics, reporters, or the public.

Ann Diamond said...

I'm referring to the ongoing revelations about mind control, child abuse, pedophilia cults, pornography, extortion and blackmail, celebrity murders, assassinations, human trafficking and snuff movies as the driving money makers behind Hollywood and the "entertainment" business- and MKULTRA is part of all that.

But mainly i'm talking about the people who now stand to profit from turning Cohen into a commodity and a deity by pretending he was not controlled throughout his career by some of the darkest people on the planet including the Rothschilds, Buckingham Palace, and their intelligence arms.

Unlike Kelley Lynch I was never at war with Cohen. I'm "relieved" that he's out of the game and can't be a pawn of these killers. I have never wasted time on resentment, but i'm not blind to the ways he misled people while he was alive. His death is another step in a big unraveling - which I whole heartedly support. Now the real stories can start to pour out. That's something you should welcome if you care about telling the truth.

Li Lise said...

A Thousand Kisses Deep
"For millions, Leonard Cohen represents the perfect imaginary lover.

Multiply those thousand kisses by the 4,000 women he boasted of having over the course of his life. And think about what that does to a man, just for a moment -- not to mention the damage to the women."
I don't get the logic of this passage. Besides, it's highly unlikely that he had the time to bestow quite that many kisses on 4000 women!
"his catastrophic negativity, that one could sense from far away. ....How, for years, almost nobody in his home town liked him, and most avoided him like a rare disease carrier."
In Naples (Italy) at least up until the 60s, that of the "jettatore" [jinx] was considered a profession. Such people would dress all in black -sometimes even wearing dark glasses - and hang around some particular place or person. Neapolitans believed that coming across one of them in the street, being stared at, or looked in the eye by one them brought bad luck on you. So they were paid to keep away.

Ann Diamond said...

If you want a more nuanced approach, here's a podcast from last year where I discuss these issues with Jasun Horsley on his podcast series:

I'm less judgmental than others because I knew Cohen early on in his career - in fact I probably first met him when I was a child at the Allan Memorial where I was part of MKULTRA's huge child trafficking and pedophilia "project" -- which is only gradually being exposed.

The truth is much too shocking for most people and Cohen lived with it for decades. That's an achievement imho. I know he tried to talk about it in his early poems, novels and songs but the world was blind and deaf back then too. So many fans still think of him as a romantic figure who led a fascinating, enviable life dedicated to art. That's a myth that needs to be exploded. His artistic career was secondary - it was a cover for his real work which was mostly over by the time Kelley Lynch came on the scene at about the same time I ended the relationship I. E. 1984.

I can tell from his final album that Cohen was listening in, and he has responded. That's all we can ask of him.

Li Lise said...

The above comments are ironical, while abelling one "criminal mind" obviously isn't. But even if it were true, who knows, maybe some day this dark side, will only add extra charm to his art. People enjoy watching scary movies because evil "in absentia" causes no harm....or does it? :)

Ann Diamond said...

And FYI I didn't stop seeing him altogether until 1996, and in 2005 i gave him a copy of my memoir My Cold War.

He would phone or we would run into each other. I saw him on Mount Baldy in 1994, and in Los Angeles in 1996. There were some very strange things going on in our neighborhood in Montreal including character assassination and all kinds of abuse, and the local petty criminals hung Leonard's "swastika inside a Star of David" symbol in their front window. There was a cult-like scene that was a dark mirror of the Roshi's in California, and the MKULTRA psychiatrists at the Allan were running things in the background - but all this has taken decades to untangle. I think it's time for all the players in this drama to come forward as we're finally in a position to understand what we have been part of - mostly unwittingly.

One thing i've learned is how so much of this traces back to Aleister Crowley whose "teachings" have spread through popular culture in our era. Cohen was no stranger to Do What Thou Wilt - but in his case I don't think it was the whole of the Law.

Jonathan Deschênes said...


Truth-Teller said...

"Now the real stories can start to pour out."

You will let us know the minute a single source who is not Ann Diamond or Kelley Lynch comes forward with a single alleged fact directly linking Leonard Cohen to an overarching conspiracy of CIA and Buckingham Palace string-pulling and murder won't you?

Ann Diamond said...

The facts are there for anyone to see if they bother to look. They're in the biographies, they're documented. You'll have to do your own research unfortunately, which would involve reading the history of the CIA takeover of post-war popular culture including the media and publishing. Them you'll have to read up on the Tavistock Institute in London, its origins with the the Rothschilds and MI5, and how it came to America in the 1960s and launched the careers of influential academics and culture heroes who influenced the generation that worships Leonard Cohen. You'll have to study the Pedophocracy and how it rules public life in the English speaking world. Once you start, it's hard to stop. Eventually you'll get to the MKULTRA program at McGill which programmed a number of Manchurian Candidates, most of whom you never heard of, who died young. By the time you've spent as long as I have absorbing all this frightening information, you'll also understand why it never made it into mainstream consciousness while the principal actors and perps were still alive: because it's a program designed to dumb you down and keep you focused on trivial distractions and believing in lies the media told you.

People who think an artist and his work can be separated have been trained not to look below the surface.

Odzer Chenma said...

Ann, I don't know much about the British royalty angle here apart from the fact that Cohen's distant cousin, Lord Janner, was accused by the UK government of sexual misconduct with children. In any event, I find Cohen's role in the Bay of Pigs even more intriguing than his LSD experiments, comments about his participation in MK Ultra, etc. Leonard Cohen himself has said that Castro's forces viewed him as CIA recon, one of the first members of the American landing party, and arrested/interrogated him. He then wrote "Field Commander Cohen" and noted that he was our "most important spy." For the time being, I'll assume Truth Teller is a Stephen Gianelli moniker. I embezzled nothing from Leonard Cohen. He, on the other hand, stole millions of dollars in corporate assets, failed to pay taxes on $8 million in income, funneled income - for years - into off-shore accounts, etc. This evidence has been submitted to IRS, numerous courts, and there are very serious tax implications to all of this. A fraud default judgment will never prove otherwise. I will note that LAPD's report, of my alleged emails, confirms that my requests to Cohen were generally requests for tax information. Of course, Cohen and his cohorts lied on the witness stand extensively about "harassment." Leonard Cohen, using an army of professionals, spent hundreds of thousands - if not millions of dollars - targeting me and attempting to explain away his role in what appears to be egregious criminal tax fraud. I suppose it's also our fault that Cohen - Canada's national treasure - cannot live in Canada due to tax and residence issues that pre-date our meeting him? One thing that has been put to bed is Cohen's ability to use his slanderous and abusive tactics to evade the actual legal and tax issues that have not been resolved.

It seems to me that, as is true for Gianelli and his cohorts, that Truth Teller is attempting to elicit information. Perhaps he would like to discuss Cohen's fantasies about men holding guns on him. Those are well documented. That would include, but is not limited to, Cohen's three versions of the bullshit Phil Spector story before LA Superior Court.

Odzer Chenma said...

In one telling, Cohen went to Cuba because he was “fighting on both sides.” In another, he went because of “a deep interest in violence. I was very interested in what it really meant for a man to to carry arms and to kill other men – and how attracted I was exactly to that process.” And in the the third, he went, he got drunk (on rum, Cuba libre, or mojitos, quien sabe; déjame en paz y me deja escribir), spent his time with late night movie operators and hookers, was woken up by an official from the Canadian embassy, taken to said embassy, and politely and firmly informed that his mother was worried about him.

Ira Nadel – the biographer quoted above – explains: “Wearing his khakis and carrying a hunting knife, he was suddenly surrounded by twelve soldiers with Czech submachine guns. It was late at night and they thought he was the first of an American landing team. They marched him to the local police station while he repeated the only Spanish he knew, a slogan of Castro’s: Amistad del pueblo, ‘Friendship of the People.’ This made no impression on his captors, but after an hour and a half of interrogation, Cohen convinced them he was not a spy buy a fan of the regime who wanted to be there.”

Ann Diamond said...

It's a colorful story that had never been explained, so until proof emerges (i'm not holding my breath) i'll just add it to my list of questions. One thing I do know: Allen Dulles who organized the Bay of Pigs invasion drew on a small army of trained CIA soldiers of fortune, and was a close colleague of Dr Ewen Cameron whose MKULTRA project was designed to create mind controlled operatives who could be used as spies and for other sensitive missions. You have only to listen to Leonard's 1970 song "Field Commander Cohen" to know he was familiar with such assignments and wanted his audience to get the message, otherwise why would he write:

"Field Commander Cohen was our most important spy
Parachuting acid into diplomatic cocktail parties
Urging Fidel Castro to abandon fields and castles
And (like a man) come back to poetry..."

But like so many others of my generation I had no clue, back when I heard this song, what it was really about.

"I know you need your sleep now..." he went on. This is one reason I give Leonard credit for trying to warn us. Unfortunately he was singing to dummies

Ann Diamond said...

If we all had to answer for everything our distant cousins are up to, the prisons would be overflowing. I'll leave Lord Janner out of my narrative -- it's an interesting but gratuitous detail that proves nothing and opens you to charges of slander.

Just saying.

Kelley Lynch said...

It is a colorful story and Cohen is known for his masterful stories and embellishing them. That's an interesting note - Allen Dulles organizing the Bay of Pigs. I do know that Cohen was also fond of telling stories about hanging out with CIA agents at Bill's Bar on Hydra. He personally wrote that he was "our most important spy." That's undeniable. I do know that he longed to be a revolutionary like Garcia Lorca and frequently referred to Lorca and Spanish Revolution. That's one of the reasons Cohen was obsessed with the notion of dying by firing squad. This issue arose when he was interviewed by Mikal Gilmore for Rolling Stone. Gilmore's brother had been executed by the government before a firing squad in the U.S. I can still visualize Cohen telling me the various last meals he would have, the cigarette he would smoke, the blindfold he would wear, and so forth. I don't know if he personally wrote anything to me about this particular issue but I'll review the documents I have.

I don't believe Cohen or anyone for that matter should answer for their relatives. I am simply aware that Cohen's distant cousin, Lord Janner, was charged by the UK government for sexual misconduct with minors. I thought that might be one of the matters you referred to re. royalty and sexual misconduct. It doesn't open me up to slander. This issue is well documented by BBC, etc. In fact, BBC wrote in October 2016, that the child molestation charges were not dropped. I believe I was clear that the UK government brought forth the charges - and investigation actually. I personally wondered if this was one of the issues raised in the comments here. Just wonderin'.

December 2, 2016 at 10:58 AM
Blogger Ann Diamond said...
If we all had to answer for everything our distant cousins are up to, the prisons would be overflowing. I'll leave Lord Janner out of my narrative -- it's an interesting but gratuitous detail that proves nothing and opens you to charges of slander.

Just saying.

December 2, 2016 at 11:02 AM

Jonathan Deschênes said...

Exactly. How crazy people can be.

Ann Diamond said...

Leonard always admitted he was crazy, Jonathan Deschenes. That's why he was so prolific. Had there not been so much confusion and darkness pressing on his mind, he would not have needed to write all those poems, novels and songs. I only get worried when people put him on a pedestal, or try to paint him as totally evil.

Ann Diamond said...

@ Kelley: Leonard was probably downplaying rather than embellishing. Hydra was known as a place for intelligence agents to retire, or lie low between assignments. While I lived there in the early 80s, I knew people who had worked for MI5, the CIA, international oil companies and middle eastern dictators. One Bill's Bar regular had been a Swiss mercenary in the Congo during the civil war there. Leonard was there in the period leading up to the Colonels' CIA- and British-backed junta -- in fact many pop stars including the Beatles considered moving their operations to Greek islands in the late 60s. Greeks know and are mistrustful of Hydra's reputation as an elite hangout and centre for espionage.

Truth-Teller said...

Your imagination has run away with you, Ann. Hydra is a fictional terrorist organization appearing in American comic books published by .... The original Hydra Island was invaded by the Leatherneck Raiders and the Japanese Samurai Squad, and the base was destroyed.

Kelley Lynch said...

Ann, I think one of the issues with Cohen is that strangers glorify him. I personally do not view him as thoroughly evil. I simply happened to know him exceedingly well. I am well aware of what Cohen told or wrote me. He said precisely what you have written - that Bill's Bar was an elite hang-out and a place where global spies hung out. I know there are bars in Georgetown where people in the industry hang out also. It doesn't sound particularly over the top. I believe Truth Teller is actually Stephen Gianelli. Your piece on him was resoundingly spot on. And, although it may surprise people who didn't know Cohen at all, he is exactly the type of clown who Cohen relied on to advance his less than noble goals when necessary.

Kelley Lynch said...

Ann, Cohen spoke extensively about his depression which he would refer to as a type of "mental violence" which stopped him from functioning properly. I don't think strangers, who never met him, have any idea as to the extent of his psychiatric ailments which were exacerbated by his over-indulgent use of drugs, psychiatric medications, and alcohol. He has been quoted as explaining that his drug and alcohol use was a reason he decided to spend time on Mt. Baldy. Jonathan Deschênes should ask "How crazy can people be" about Leonard Cohen who never tried to hide that he was an entirely tortured soul.

He provides more details in a 1997 radio interview:5

“Well, for me personally, depression has been an issue with me for the whole of my life and I’ve tried, like everybody else, various ways of dealing with that depression. You know, drugs, women, art, religion… you try everything … . Well, you know, there’s depression and depression. What I mean by depression in my own case is that depression isn’t just the blues. It’s not just like I’ve a hangover for the weekend… the girl didn’t show up or something like that, it isn’t that. I’m trying to describe clinically like an acute depression. It’s not really depression, it’s a kind of mental violence which stops you from functioning properly from one moment to the next. You lose something somewhere and suddenly you’re gripped by a kind of angst of the heart and of the spirit.”

Ann Diamond said...

Hydra was a mythological nine-headed monster slain by Hercules who tossed one of the heads into the Saronic Gulf where it grew until it formed the island known as Hydra, a playground for wealthy pleasure-seekers and their friends in intelligence agencies. When Leonard first went there he was working for Victor Rothschild, who secretly ran MI6, and whose ex-wife was living on the island with the famous Greek painter Ghikas. The Ghikas mansion burned to the ground soon after Leonard attempted to visit but was turned away at the door.

Kelley Lynch said...

Leonard Cohen's official fan site has covered this, as have many biographers, over the years. Here's an excerpt from Ira Nadel's biography that Cohen approved. I worked very closely with Nadel (and Cohen) on this biography. I don't know if he worked for Victor Rothschild but do know - from Cohen personally - that he heard about Hydra from Jacob Rothschild. That's what led Cohen to visit Jacob's mother. Gianelli/Truth Teller obviously does not know Cohen at all. It's embarrassing.

It was actually the island of Hydra that attracted Cohen. English was spoken and an artists’ colony was flourishing. He had first heard of Hydra from Jacob Rothschild, whose mother had married Ghikas (Niko Hadjikyriakos), one of modern Greece’s most important painters. They lived in his family’s forty-room seventeenth-century mansion perched on a hill some distance from the port with a striking view of the sea. Jacob Rothschild encouraged Cohen to visit his mother, promising to write to her to say that Cohen was coming. Layton had predicted Cohen’s departure. “I suppose when he’s finished his novel,” he told Desmond Pacey, ”he’ll leave London for the Continent, where he’ll make love to all the beautiful French and Italian women, and then leave for Greece and Israel!”

Ann Diamond said...

Bottom line: an artistic career is a great cover for a spy.

Ann Diamond said...

I just would add that there was no other way to have a music career in the 1960s and afterwards than to work for those very agencies. Had Cohen chosen to remain 'pure' we would never have heard from him again. That was the choice, which was no choice at all. It's eye-opening to read the hidden history surrounding the Beatles, just for perspective. The Fab Four were subject to the same kinds of pressures including blackmail and threats from their real "managers" -- not Brian Epstein who, like Paul, was likely murdered. Anyone entering that world had to be ready for everything.

Truth-Teller said...

I have spent time on Hydra and never ran into a single intelligence agent or former intelligence agent. I married into a Greek family of professional people (medical doctors) and no one in the family has ever heard of any Hydra/intelligence connection.

I cannot find a single internet reference to Hydra as a place populated by current or former intelligence types.

Never believe what a guy you have never met tells you in a bar, Ann.

Truth-Teller said...

Almost any career that involves international travel could be a great cover for a spy. If that is your "bottom line" regarding an alleged Cohen-"murderous" CIA connection, that is utter speculation. Hardly a floodgate of "the truth coming out".

Truth-Teller said...

Ha! "No other way to have a music career in the 1960's" than to work for the CIA?

Totally ridiculous and unsupported claim.

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Ann Diamond said...

You visited Hydra and didn't meet a single intelligence operative? That settles it then.

You could start by reading the list of writers who lived and produced books on Hydra. It's a long list but you could start with Australian novelist George Johnston who was a war correspondent and worked for military intelligence and knew Leonard and Marianne. I could name others who are alive and/or have families etc so I wont. Jackie Kennedy, the Beatles, Marianne Faithfull, Mick Jagger, Princess Diana -- all came to Hydra. When I lived there I went to parties where people reminisced about the Suez crisis or flying bombers over Yugoslavia. There were ex prostitutes and former oil company executives drinking in Bill's Bar. People who had negotiated with the IRA. And so on. Just scratching the surface because in those days I wasn't clued in to any of this and gathered information unintentionally at dinner parties etc. But you can research it if you're curious - doesn't sound like you are, though.

Ann Diamond said...

Definitely, Stephen Gianelli is back, repeating himself as "Truth Teller" -- same old disinfo and spam. But not for much longer.

Ann Diamond said...

Here's today's Guardian article on Hydra: https://

Truth-Teller said...

Not a word in the liked article about any intelligence operatives on Hydra (past or present).

Kelley Lynch said...

Ann, I know a very famous composer who ha strong ties to the military and intelligence. He mentioned that Ian Flemming, who was UK Navy intelligence, spent time on Hydra. Perhaps Gianelli's well connected friends on Greece are simply unaware of Hydra's background or the fact that it's a hub for people from all walks of life. In fact, this composer met with Ian Flemming in a bar and provided him with information, such as the details about the golden Rolls Royce, used in Goldfinger. Sometimes interesting conversations arise in bars. It's irrelevant if Cohen was affiliated with intelligence or not. This is what he informed people and that includes re. Bay of Pigs and MK Ultra. I view it as a mere aspect of Cohen's personality. In any event, I think we've covered this topic sufficiently. Gianelli, of course, is on an information seeking campaign, as always. One thing is clear: Gianelli is not intelligence but most definitely appears to be a dangerous clown with motive and a 24/7 job targeting people over Leonard Cohen and Phil Spector.

Truth-Teller said...
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Ann Diamond said...

Right. That's why I posted it. Intelligence agencies don't advertise their activities in the Guardian.

Kelley Lynch said...

Take a listen to Goldfinger.

Ann Diamond said...

Comments will be deleted when they repeat propaganda already posted on numerous other sites and discussion boards by the poster Stephen Gianelli under his latest nisnomer Truth-Teller.

This post is getting an unusual amount of traffic which tells me it has attracted attention from people close to the above-mentioned cabal. Maybe some of them would like to come out from behind their mouthpiece and disinformation agent, and answer some questions?

Kelley Lynch said...

Ann, Gianelli most definitely uses monikers to post. I have seen this repeatedly. He creates fake email accounts, etc. I believe this individual, on Truth Sentinel may also be Gianelli. I think your blog readers should listen to your, Paulette, and my interviews on that internet site. They can decide for themselves. Gianelli wants to drive the conversation as we have seen on his "law blog," other blogs, throughout the internet, in his harassing emails, etc. We've seen the Israeli leaderships comments on Cohen. Our military also liked Bob Hope. I find Gianelli's ties to Kory & Rice most interesting and very telling.

truthseeker44422 minutes ago

You seem to have misunderstood me, I do not doubt that he was MK, I never looked into the possibility until after he died though. He was certainly in Israel during the Yom Kippur war, and after he died various Israeli dignitaries commended him. I accept that he probably was part of the mind control programme, so it follows that he would have taken part in the experiments, however I do not think that the pic presented of him during sensory deprivation tests is him, and before I made that statement I carefully studied pictures of him when he was young.

As for my "spouse", I have never been married and I have no clue what you are talking about!

The best evidence of him being MK comes from the lyrics of his own songs, especially the early ones. "I walked into a hospital where none were sick and none were well" etc.
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Mytube7774 days ago

A very articulate description of what I have witnessed just from reading your blog. I also believe others see this as well and I am glad for that. I'm amazed at what you went through due to not only him messing with you, but everything as a whole.

Ann Diamond said...

I don't believe those other comments are by Gianelli. If this silliness goes on, I'll be taking down this post. I originally wrote it (very quickly) in response to the deification of Leonard Cohen, and to stir the pot.

When you deify a flawed man, you deify his errors -- you blur the line between good and evil and promote the kabbalistic notion that God is a bit of both, and 'great light only comes out of great darkness." That was Leonard's downfall, in my opinion. I doubt he really believed in it at the end of his life. Songs like "It Seemed the Better Way" make it clear he had serious regrets and was finally putting his house in order, but it's not for me to judge.

I think my little rant has served its purpose. The goblins are coming out of the woodwork and maybe they'll eventually get up the courage to speak their lies and gossip out loud and in public, where they can be dealt with openly. That would make a nice change.

Kelley Lynch said...

We differ on that, Ann. I suppose targeting people is silliness from a certain perspective.

I think Leonard Cohen understood who he was. It is difficult to know what he grappled with at the end. I know what he was doing in court which was not especially enlightened behavior and that is a crucial element of his character.

Whether you take your blog post down or not, the goblins are cowards and will never crawl out of the woodwork to permit open confrontation. It's not in their nature and change is very very difficult for most.

Ann Diamond said...

One of his traits was, when pushed into a corner he would never back down. When he felt slighted, he didn't take prisoners. There were people who got close to him who understood how to manipulate him with lies and flattery. He could be unstable, bordering on delusional - especially where women were concerned.

Kelley Lynch said...

We agree on this front. I recall Cohen, furious at one point, feeling slighted by a journalist. He wrote to say "You see right through me." He also didn't recover from criticism. Cohen's encounters with women have been glamorized. I was quite happy to hear from his former paramour's recently. I must give her a call. Glad she connected with you as well.

Ann Diamond said...

Years ago, the Roshi talked about the difference between Satori ("enlightenment") and the Christian idea of virtue. He said they are distinct: you can be awakened and have deep insight without being a good person. Becoming enlightened would not alter your basic nature if you are a criminal. He spoke of a famous Zen master, possibly Kyozan (?) who was a person of dark character, but that didn't prevent him from being a "great teacher of human duplicity."

What is the point of whitewashing a person who has been extremely destructive in his lifetime, but still made exceptional achievements? Why not remember him as he really was, and draw realistic lessons? Death might put an end to careers on earth, but it doesn't sanitize histories.

This has nothing to do with "bitterness"- it's about taking responsibility for our own failure to prevent a friend from running amok on our watch.

Truth-Teller said...

Pretty hard to prevent a "friend" from doing anything after they are already dead. Nor have I seen any evidence of the "white washing" of Leonard Cohen's life or career.

If you refer to the allegation that Cohen was "mind controlled" by some intelligence agency, there is zero objective evidence to support that assertion and the only two persons who are saying that is true have also advanced other, highly implausible conspiracy theories that are also devoid of factual support.

Ann Diamond said...

There are no "conspiracy theories" mentioned here, just facts and real personal experience. The real Leonard Cohen was best understood as a multiple personality - then the inexplicable contradictions make sense and he can RIP.

Truth-Teller said...

One more comment regarding the update to this post, stating incorrectly that "Cohen lied about Kelley Lynch stealing from him. This has never been proven in a court of law."

All of this was proven in the form of written declarations submitted to Judge Kenneth Freeman of the Los Angles County Superior Court under penalty of perjury by Leonard Cohen and a forensic accountant who examined Cohen's account statements (from which the money was taken by Lynch) and Lynch's account statements (into which the stolen money was deposited).

Kelley Lynch was notified by email of this 2006 hearing, and she replied to that email - stating that she would not be attending.

The proof consisted of 1. Cohen's testimony that Lynch's agreed compensation was 10% of his income, later raised to 15%, as well as forensic testimony and banking records demonstrating that the total amount that Lynch paid herself from Cohen's various accounts exceeded the agreed compensation by over $5 million, which embezzlement took place over many years, from 1999 through the point in 2004 when Lynch's theft was discovered.

I am aware than Lynch now claims that all of the witnesses "lied" at the 2006 hearing. But that is a different claim than the allegation that Lynch's theft "has never been proven in a court of law". Indeed, the claim has been proven. Otherwise the court would not have issued a judgment in that amount.

I am also mindful of the fact that since Lynch made a deliberate decision to stay away from the hearing, the court had no choice but to accept the testimony offered by Cohen and his forensic accountant at the time judgment was entered, since it was presented in proper, admissible form.

It is also more than a bit suspicious that Lynch failed to appear at the hearing where all of this was decided - when she could have presented evidence of her own to challenge the charge, instead electing to wage a campaign of email and voice mail harassment against Cohen, followed seven years later by a belated series of ineffective and untimely legal challenges in 2013 and 2015, as well as an ill-fated (immediately dismissed) lawsuit filed in 2016 (twelve years after Cohen fired her for embezzlement).

Ann Diamond said...

Thank you Mr Gianelli for your dogged efforts in self-repetition under various aliases.

Truth-Teller said...

"Gianelli" is Kelley Lynch's Moriarity. Yours too, apparently. But that does not change the fact that an evidentiary showing was made in support of Leonard Cohen's embezzlement claim at a 2006 hearing that Lynch could have attended to present whatever she had to say and chose not to. For almost a decade (beginning in 2006) she blogged that the judgment was "fraudulent", then seven years after the fact decided to serially go to court and try to reopen her long closed case (conveniently after banking documents were destroyed and memories faded.) Like her defense in the 2012 criminal case against her (claiming that emails berating Cohen's penis size and accusing him of molesting his daughter were only to obtain "tax information"), nothing about Lynch's claims withstand scrutiny, and her only apologist is you. Probably because she also supports your own view of "reality" regarding Cohen that no one other than Lynch agrees with.

Ann Diamond said...

Gianelli, you are in no way qualified to comment on Leonard Cohen's behaviour over the decades. You never met him. You haven't even read his work.

Truth-Teller said...

The only persons here who have commented on Leonard Cohen's behavior over the decades are Ann Diamond and Kelley Lynch.

I have addressed a very narrow statement that you have made that "Leonard Cohen lied about Kelley Lynch stealing from him. That has never been proven in a court of law."

Yes it has been proven. There was a lawsuit filed. Kelley Lynch says she was not served, but Judge Hess found otherwise (in addition to the obvious fact that waiting seven years to come into court to set a judgment aside is unreasonable).

A March, 2006 court hearing was held of which, by email, Lynch acknowledge she was aware of the time, date, place and that she decided not to attend to give her side.

Evidence was submitted and considered at the hearing that Lynch embezzled $6M.

The complaint (that judge Hess would later find in 2014 that Lynch was in fact served with) only asked for $5M, so the judge reduced the award to that amount.

Judgment was then entered for $5M + prejudgment interest after the court found there was in fact evidence of Lynch's theft presented to it.

That is all that I corrected. Not the manner in which Cohen behaved for 82 years, about which I could care less.

Ann Diamond said...

Please find another venue for your repetitive compulsion disorder.

Truth-Teller said...

No problem. But this comment is not cumulative to anything I posted here. And, Ann, if you want to speak ill of the dead in the interest of "truth" you might as well be accurate. You have no way of knowing whether Leonard Cohen and his accountant lied about Kelley Lynch's embezzlement and also submitted forged banking documents to support the lie or whether he was telling the truth as the banking records establish. The only thing that is certain is that the issue was in fact determined a hearing in a "court of law", that Kelley Lynch decided not to attend even though she was living in Los Angeles at the time.

Ann Diamond said...

Some people care about "being right" in an argument or "doing the right thing" - Leonard only cared about not getting caught. That's why his mantra was "They'll never catch us" -- this is what he said when meeting someone for the first time, or chatting with an old friend. Leonard was a programmed multiple who often did not remember what he'd said or done the day before. Hence his need for managers and assistants to run his affairs - up to and including his love affairs. If you think such a man was capable of fidelity or honesty, you have never dealt with Leonard, who had a lifelong reputation as a liar and crook before the media turned him into a sain't sage. It's simply in character for him to defraud and defame his ex-agents, lie to biographers, go back on agreements, cheat, lie and beg forgiveness -- all the things he sings about, in the state of "holy guilt" for which he's famous.

Truth-Teller said...

" If you think such a man was capable of fidelity or honesty ...". I think no such thing. I have never met or spoken to the man, let alone had enough interaction to form an opinion about his character.

I have never expressed an opinion about Leonard Cohen's character - ever, at any time on any forum.

I was only addressing your (incorrect) claim that Cohen's assertion that Kelley Lynch embezzled $5M from him from 1999 through her firing in 2004 "has never been proven in a court of law". It has.

And it is possible that Cohen did make the whole thing up, although it would have been difficult to forge YEARS of Cohen and Lynch's bank statements, front and back copies of canceled checks, and other documents bearing complex banking account, date, routing and time stamps and also difficult to persuade a forensic accountant with a nationally known firm to blatantly commit perjury.

I also know the cash flow that it takes to support an expensive house with a pool, grounds and a tennis court (mortgage, tax, insurance, maintenance ), two kids in school, an imported car (maintenance, gas, insurance), a personal assistant to help with the kids, restaurant tabs, clothes, food etc.)in an expensive city in California (Brentwood) and the approximate $100,00 in legitimate income that Lynch was entitled to while Cohen was off drinking red wine and gazing at his navel at the Ashram was not enough to support that lifestyle.

I is not my place to weigh in on the "he said, she said".

Only to correct the misstatements here on the subject of the Cohen vs. Lynch lawsuit resulting in a May, 2006 judgment for embezzlement.

Cohen showed up in court armed with evidence and testimony, Lynch stayed away, and the predictable happened (she lost).

The end.

Ann Diamond said...

Okay. I think most people understand "proof" as not the same as a default judgment. Default judgments are rendered all the time but they don't establish the deeper truth of a case in the sense of an actual trial, with two lawyers debating each piece of evidence and point of law. Kelley Lynch was tried in the media and judged guilty long before the court date was even set. The winner was Leonard Cohen, who hired a PR firm to present his side before the story made international news. So there are many possible reasons why Lynch did not appear, the main one being she was destitute and couldnt pay a lawyer --

Ann Diamond said...

To say he 'didn't treat the women in his life very well' is a fantastic understatement. When it came to women, Leonard was medieval. Men who met him all seem to think he was a very Godly person, whose mind was fixed on spiritual matters, swaying "in the arms of the High Holy One."

Obviously, he never asked them to spend the night.

Thinking back what we talked about, way back then. Not God, not religion -- comforting topics that men like to discuss -- although they also came up, occasionally. With me, he brought up subjects like child abuse. He brought them up, not I.

In fact, he often talked about his daughter in intimate detail, although she was still a little girl. He shared secrets about his mother, and how she died. Rarely, he recommended books to read: like Margarita Karapanou's novel Kassandra and the Wolf. That one sticks in my mind because it was all about incest and abuse from the perspective of a little girl.

The only time he took me to a movie was in Los Angeles -- he chose Frances, about Frances Farmer, who was locked up in a mental hospital, raped and lobotomized.

He lent me a copy of Hermann Wouk's The Winds of War -- and Norman Mailer's Ancient Evenings which he liked for the pornography.

He showed me some nude photos of his wife, posing in a chapel. And so on. And I was not even a girlfriend by then -- I had learned to keep my distance, after watching him tear through a series of younger victims. Sometimes I ended up consoling them. It was like volunteering in a military field hospital in wartime. There was blood everywhere.

Truth-Teller said...

First, even in default, the court in CA must (and did) verify that the judgment is upported by addmisibe evidence. Second, CA law does not recognize degrees of truth. A default J has thesame effect in establishing facts as a jury trial. Third, lynch STILL cannot afford a lawyer, but that has not stopped her from going to court in 2014, 2015, and 2016 with foral pleadings to try to (belatedlly) contest the case after it waa too. Late to do so, therefore the lack of money defense to not showing at the 2006 hearing does not hold water. Nor has public opinion changed - so that does not explain it either.

One could argue that he stayed away in shame.

Truth-Teller said...

A judgment of default in a civil proceeding is res judicata (meaning, binding as a factual determination) as to all issues aptly pleaded in the lawsuit and defendant is legally precluded from denying in a subsequent action any allegations contained in the former suit. (Fitzgerald v. Herzer (1947) 78 Cal. App. 2d 127, 132 [177 P.2d 364].)

In addition, in California personal service of the suit is not required as long as a copy is left with a person who appears to at least 18 and who answers the door, and a second copy is also mailed to the residence.

In August of 2005 when Lynch was served at her Brentwood home she apparently (mistakenly)believed that as long as she did not give her name to the process server, the service would be invalid. She was mistaken. (Note that Lynch was also served in the month of August 2005 with a $76,000 lawsuit to collect the unpaid balance on her Neiman Marcus account and in a Colorado federal district court proceeding relating to Cohen's retirement funds. In both instances a "Jane Doe" was served at the same residence who refused to give her name.)

Lynch apparently also believed that if she simply absented herself from the court proceedings in Cohen vs. Lynch that she could always argue - as Ann Diamond appears to here - that the default really does not count as a determination of what really happened. Again, not so.

Finally, Ann, if a jury verdict is the preferred method to determine "truth" in the courtroom, I assume you concede that the 2012 jury of 12 citizens who unanimously found that Kelley Lynch committed six criminal counts of harassment and restraining order violations by sending Cohen thousands of abusive and threatening emails and by leaving him dozens of abusive and threatening telephone answering machine messages found that "deeper truth" about Kelley Lynch that you refer to?

Or do you believe that Lynch is credible when she says that emails to Cohen referencing his penis size, the alleged molestation of his daughter, and stating that he should be "taken out and shot" were all "legitimate requests for tax information" and not "harassment"?

I was copied with many of the email messages that Lynch was convicted of sending to Cohen (she emailed me 20,000 times over the years) so I have first hand knowledge of these matters. And the jury verdict and her related 18-month jail sentence, as well has her 2014 violation of probation consisting of threatening to kill her trial prosecutor and related 6-month jail sentence are all common knowledge.

Ann Diamond said...

When the FBI discovers a crime, they open an investigation and question all the involved parties. They don't consult lawyers. A "victim of theft" who hires a PR firm before pressing charges and uses the media to advance his side, is not a credible witness. This case was rotten from the beginning.

Ann Diamond said...

I agree with your typo, Gianelli: "One could argue that he stayed away in shame." I'll leave your comments up for now, but this blog entry is about Leonard Cohen, not Kelley Lynch (who is mentioned in passing). This blog entry is also about how women collaborated with Leonard Cohen in covering up child abuse. Your legal arguments are tangential, irrelevant, and of neglible interest. Kelley Lynch was one of a series of women who witnessed abuse while working for Leonard Cohen and who, for one reason or another, were forced to remain silent about it. I was another in this series. That's the real crime here -- and since it's unspeakable, it has to keep being covered up. The truth about Leonard is, he was abused as a child and repeated that abuse throughout his lifetime although he was clever at concealing it behind a veil of poetry, rhetoric, lies, intimidation, and even blackmail -- this is what the world of pedophilia demands of its many participants, some of whom live in the public eye, exposing their addictions in plain sight and inviting others to imitate them.

People close to him witnessed that abuse, and its many-sided consequences, over decades, and most are still covering up their own complicity. That's the real subject here. Now that he's dead, we have a new reason to keep quiet. So instead we are seeing a string of news stories and personal reminiscences and blogs claiming to offer us true insight into the real Leonard Cohen, and in almost every case he is portrayed as someone having a Heart of Gold.

I also encountered his golden heart and was taken in by it. I am not a rejected groupie, but a personal friend who walked away from an unbearable mess that involved his daughter, for which I was slandered and threatened, literally for decades. And now, I'm being asked once again to collaborate with the Cohen PR machine that says we must all accept the "Default Judgment" heard around the world, that he was a great soul and an impeccable saint who never harmed anyone.

In defiance of all patriarchal institutions that are set up to conceal and justify crimes against children, I'm calling bullshit. Leonard Cohen did a lot of harm in his lifetime, and his songs are not sufficient atonement. Where is it written in the Old Testament that "songs" are recognized by God and his judges as proof of good intentions? Think you can sing your way out of Hell?

Ann Diamond said...

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Continuing this train of thought ... what no one seems to get, and I mean the biographers, fans, critics, journalists and others, is that Leonard was an artist all his life but art was not his only career. Almost nobody makes a living as a writer anymore, and that was certainly also true back in the 1950s. Lacking a family fortune to fall back on, Leonard lived at his mother's house until he was 25, when he finally left for England where he finished his novel. So, yes, he was writing but he was not making a living off writing. He had turned his back on the family clothing business. So that left what? At the time his McGill (and Columbia) University connections were heavily funded by the CIA -- and Leonard also happened to be a graduate of Dr. Cameron's program to create Manchurian Candidates. So that became his first career: he travelled to countries where the CIA was active, and followed orders. That explains the theme of "military discipline" that appeared in his stage performances, songs, and interviews. He is a fan of the military, because he got his early training in secret military projects that left him with plenty of experience to process through his art. That included much guilt and regret because the life of a mind controlled operative can't be very pleasant. Add to that the need for total secrecy and obedience, and you can see why Leonard chose to express himself in songs and metaphors. His lifelong quest for Beauty was also a struggle to find a safe haven in the dangerous world he entered at 25. And yes, the songs are beautiful, complex, tortured as we would expect from someone who spent his formative years hanging out with killers, crooks and global power-brokers --

He was fascinating not only because he knew so much more than most of us about how things work, but because he stayed within the limits set for him by his secret profession. That was the cause of the unbearable tension that makes his work so dark and memorable.

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